Re: [microblaze-uclinux] IRC Channel?

[John Williams <jwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi,

We experimented with an IRC channel a while back, basically it was just
me and Yashi hanging out and little else.  I have no feelings either way
if people want to get together on an IRC channel, but I don't have any
time to spend there.

IRC can be logged, automatically if you want, but I'm not convinced of
how useful that really is.  The breakdown of where I find "the good
stuff" looks something like this:

85% mailing list archives
10% static web content
5% web-based forum pages
0%  IRC history logs

Of course, maybe I'm biased because I search mailing list archives first
- they truly hold the collected wisdom of generations of open source
developers.

John




Matthew Rubenstein wrote:
> 	The only way that an IRC channel benefits a large community of mostly
> "lurkers" more than it costs in lost discussions that still "leech" off
> the community activity is with a strict logging protocol. The IRC is
> silent until people agree in email Cc'd to the list to meet on the IRC
> channel. Then at least one chatter logs the complete transaction and
> emails it back to the list when the session is done.
> 
> 	I don't know of any SW that automates that social protocol. Without
> automation, it's totally unreliable. So IRC will divert discussions
> useful to all only to those immediately participating. The overall
> community that enables those IRC sessions won't get the return, either
> immediately or in searchable archives.
> 
> 	If there's a way to address that weakness, I'd love to hear about it.
> Until then, I don't want to have to "hang out on IRC" to stay in touch
> with the MB/uCL project.
> 
> On Mon, 2006-02-27 at 19:19 +0000, Abot Botbot wrote:
> 
>>well, I agree in principle this is nice for building a community and 
>>knowledge base. But conversely, there is immediacty and just plain-ol 
>>comeraderie in the IRC form. Real time support for simple problems wouldnt 
>>require waiting hours or days for it to turn over on the mailing list. We 
>>could also get to know one another and give a nice face to newcomers and 
>>crossovers from other platforms. Maybe its more time than people are willing 
>>to put into it, but I for one wouldnt mind helping those lower down on the 
>>learning curve, given all the help I've already absorbed.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Andy
>>
>>
>>>From: "e.stiebler" <emu@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>Reply-To: microblaze-uclinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>To: microblaze-uclinux@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>Subject: Re: [microblaze-uclinux] IRC Channel?
>>>Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 09:01:47 -0700
>>>
>>>Abot Botbot wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello everyone,
>>>>
>>>>  Do you folks hang out in any specific IRC channels? If not we should 
>>>>start one for uClinux or even just for microblaze.
>>>
>>>Please don't. For what we're doing, a mailinglist is better, because you   
>>>can check the archives for questions asked already. In the IRC it is 
>>>exactly what it is, just chat. And it is gone after being answered ;-)
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