Minutes of 1st formal Brisbane Mesh meeting, 15 May, 2002.

Venue: Scout Hall, 11 Oxley Rd Chelmer, Qld.

Date: 7.00 p.m. - 9.50 p.m. 15 May, 2002

Summary of carried motions

  1. Operating a non-commercial LAN using fixed wireless links and without a carrier licence is legal.
  2. Roaming is unwanted until a clear legal definition is garnered.
  3. A standard node policy that covers legal liability to be the subject of a working group to respond by 1 July 2002.
  4. We recognise that we need at least one common network protocol and shared address space.
  5. The IPv4 address allocation scheme be referred to a working group named by and including Mark Allen and Dale Clapperton, involving no more than eight people, to report within 30 days.
  6. The IPv6 address allocation scheme to be the subject of a working group consisting of maximum 8 people, named by and including David Leonard, to report 1 July 2002.
  7. The question of OSPF to be used as the common routing protocol be part of the IPv4 working group.
  8. We support hosts capable of IPv4 only, until January 2005, to be reviewed at that date.
  9. We define a member of the mesh to be any person who has one or more registered nodes.
  10. Decisions for the group be made through future meetings announced on the mesh-announce list formally convened and chaired like the one 15 May 2002 convened 14 days in advance, minimum 10 members present.
  11. Our position on the use of the terms such as "BrisMesh" or "Brisbane Mesh" is that they are free for use in connection with the Brisbane Mesh by BrisMesh members only.
  12. That discussions carried out with limited interest to members should not be carried out on the main mailing list.
  13. That there be formed a legal and regulatory working group, to examine legal and regulatory issues relating to the group, to report by 1 July 2002; and that the group be comprised of: Len Falknau, Dale Clapperton, David Starkoff, Craig Askings, Stephen Thomas, David Leonard.
  14. That the next meeting to be held within three months.

Summary of lost motions

  1. We incorporate under the Associations Incorporation Act (1981).

Summary of motions deferred to another meeting

  1. The carriage of internet traffic in the mesh is commercial and unwanted.

Present

Apologies

The meeting commenced at 7.15 p.m.

Motions with notice

  1. Motion: A1. Operating a non-commercial LAN using fixed wireless links and without a carrier licence is legal. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Dale Clapperton)
    Carried unaimously
  2. Motion: A2. The carriage of live, "commodity internet" traffic in the mesh is unwanted. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Michael Oliver) Deferred until next meeting
  3. Motion: A3. Roaming is unwanted. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Garry Ford) Carried
  4. Motion: A4. The objective statement of the mesh project to be one of those from the objectives page, and that we vote separately on which one. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Shane Smith)

    General discussion confused as to usefulness of such a motion.

    Withdrawn
  5. Motion: A6. A standard node policy that covers legal liability to be the subject of a working group to respond by 1 July 2002. (Moved by Brett Maxfield, seconded by Shane Smith)
    Carried
  6. Motion: B1. We recognise that we need a common network protocol and shared address space. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Michael Oliver) Carried
  7. Motion: B2. We support IPv4-only hosts until 1 Jan 2003. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Hasjim Williams) Deferred
  8. Motion: B3. The IPv4 address allocation scheme to be implemented as per Mark Allen's published scheme. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Mark Allen) Carried
  9. Motion: B4. The IPv6 address allocation scheme to be the subject of a working group to report 1 July 2002. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Garry Ford) Carried
  10. Motion: B6. Web resources 'springing up' all over the place should be centrally authorised. (Moved by Garry Ford, seconded by Brett Maxfield) Deferred
  11. Motion: We take a 5 minute break (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Mark Allen)
    Carried

    Note: Meeting was adjourned at 9.03 p.m., and resumed at 9.15 p.m.

  12. Motion: B7. OSPF to be used as the common routing protocol. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Shane Smith) Carried
  13. Motion: B2. We support IPv4-only hosts, until January 2003. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Unknown) Carried
  14. Motion: C1. We incorporate by 1 June, 2003. (Moved by Brett Maxfield, seconded by Andrew Dorney)

    Note: chair asked those present under the age of 18 to abstain from voting.

    Lost unanimously
  15. Motion: C2. Our relationship to APANA be unstated. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Michael Oliver)
    Out of order (negative motion)
  16. Motion: C3. Our membership fees be: $0.00.
    Out of order (negative motion)
  17. Motion: C4. We define a member of the Mesh to be anyone whose details are recorded on a membership list. (Moved by Brett Maxfield, seconded by Matthew Sullivan) Carried
  18. Motion: C5. Decisions for the group be made through future meetings like this. (Moved by Murray McDonald, seconded by Michael Oliver) Carried
  19. Motion: C6. Our position on the use of the terms such as "BrisMesh" or "Brisbane Mesh" is that they remain phrases in the public domain. (Moved by Garry Ford, seconded by Unknown) Carried
  20. Motion: D1. Our submission to the Wireless broadband enquiry will be nothing. (Moved by David Leonard,
    Out of order (negative motion)

    Note: Floor was asked to move a similar motion at this point.

    Note: Further motions from the floor were then accepted

  21. Motion: Discussions carried out with limited interest to members be moved to the web forums. (Moved by Murray McDonald, seconded by Mark Allen) Carried
  22. Motion: The meeting be closed. (Moved by Matthew Sullivan, seconded by Unknown)

    Dale Clapperton said he had another question to move

    Lost
  23. Motion: There be formed a legal and regulatory working group to examine legal and regulatory issues relating to the group. (Moved by Dale Clapperton, seconded by Len Falknau) Carried
  24. Motion: The next meeting to be held within six months. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Dale Clapperton) Carried
  25. Motion: The meeting close. (Moved by David Leonard, seconded by Dale Clapperton)
    Carried

The meeting was declared closed at 9:50 p.m.

These minutes prepared by Andrew Dorney and David Leonard.